Obama WANTS the Dems to lose their seats in November. If this sounds crazy to you it is because you don't understand that he is NOT a politician. He is first and foremost and ideologue. He has now gotten 219 dems to walk the plank. In the coming weeks and months it will become clear to many of them that they're not going to get reelected. Obama can now go to those people and say to them, "You and I know you're not coming back in January. You're free from trying to get reelected. You have nothing to lose. Vote your heart and let's make this country what we want it to be."
People think that the dems won't be able to pass anything else once the backlash of healthcare is felt, not true. The reality of their doom will embolden them to pass everything on Obama's agenda while they still can.
There is a way, however, to win the war. We must coordinate with other like-minded groups (national coordination) to then communicate and coordinate with conservative candidates. It is OUR job (at the grassroots level) to communicate our mandate to candidates -- the Republicans party players cannot be trusted to spearhead this effort... they'll fold, because they aren't truly connected to the heartbeat of America. But we MUST support and direct the Republicans... a third party will not get us anywhere other than on the losing end of history.
So we take back the House, and perhaps even the Senate with candidates committed to passing strong, conservative legislation -- which Obama will veto or just ignore and let die (though he'll probably veto it, because of his ego). Our guys then pass similar legislation again, and again, and again. We force Obama's hand.
Here's the deal: there are still a lot of folks who just can't get their mind around the fact that we have elected a President who fundamentally despises the founding principles of our country. He is a far-left ideologue, and we have to take back Congress and pass bill after bill that does what people in the country want, and here's the kicker -- we have to COMMUNICATE this to the people, so they can see that Obama will not lift a finger to help the private sector of our country. He will only move when it means giving the government more control over our lives.
While we do this (and public anger continues to grow -- Lord knows our economy won't) we must also coordinate with those who will become presidential candidates for 2012. They must run on a platform that they'll sign the bills Obama is ignoring. The people need to know that with the new president all of these great bills will be signed into law, restoring our personal liberties, shrinking government, privatizing GM and Chrysler, disbanding the National Education Association (or should I say "National Indoctrination Association"). Give states rights back to the states and kill the federal organizations that have taken these rights away over the past many decades.
This seems like a tall order, but the anger of the country is only going to grow for the next couple of years. We need to channel that anger and focus it in the proper direction.
And then we can't afford to just vote for someone who's not a Democrat (are you listening, GOP??), because without a plan, they won't do much to restore our country's greatness. They'll just be happy to have power and sit on their asses.
The mandate MUST be clear -- FIX THE MESS! UNDO OBAMA'S DAMGE! UNDO MUCH OF THE LIBERAL PROGRESSION OF THE LAST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY! TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION! If you don't, then we will replace YOU next time with someone who will.
WE are the power in this scenario. WE do the hiring and firing. This is why we MUST coordinate (a lesson we can actually take from the liberals like Obama). We must then act specifically toward the goal, and must never lose our focus or intensity.
WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!! We can do this! Yes, we can!!!!
:)
Obama WANTS the Dems to lose their seats in November. If this sounds crazy to you it is because you don't understand that he is NOT a politician. He is first and foremost and ideologue. He has now gotten 219 dems to walk the plank. In the coming weeks and months it will become clear to many of them that they're not going to get reelected. Obama can now go to those people and say to them, "You and I know you're not coming back in January. You're free from trying to get reelected. You have nothing to lose. Vote your heart and let's make this country what we want it to be."
People think that the dems won't be able to pass anything else once the backlash of healthcare is felt, not true. The reality of their doom will embolden them to pass everything on Obama's agenda while they still can.
There is a way, however, to win the war. We must coordinate with other like-minded groups (national coordination) to then communicate and coordinate with conservative candidates. It is OUR job (at the grassroots level) to communicate our mandate to candidates -- the Republicans party players cannot be trusted to spearhead this effort... they'll fold, because they aren't truly connected to the heartbeat of America. But we MUST support and direct the Republicans... a third party will not get us anywhere other than on the losing end of history.
So we take back the House, and perhaps even the Senate with candidates committed to passing strong, conservative legislation -- which Obama will veto or just ignore and let die (though he'll probably veto it, because of his ego). Our guys then pass similar legislation again, and again, and again. We force Obama's hand.
Here's the deal: there are still a lot of folks who just can't get their mind around the fact that we have elected a President who fundamentally despises the founding principles of our country. He is a far-left ideologue, and we have to take back Congress and pass bill after bill that does what people in the country want, and here's the kicker -- we have to COMMUNICATE this to the people, so they can see that Obama will not lift a finger to help the private sector of our country. He will only move when it means giving the government more control over our lives.
While we do this (and public anger continues to grow -- Lord knows our economy won't) we must also coordinate with those who will become presidential candidates for 2012. They must run on a platform that they'll sign the bills Obama is ignoring. The people need to know that with the new president all of these great bills will be signed into law, restoring our personal liberties, shrinking government, privatizing GM and Chrysler, disbanding the National Education Association (or should I say "National Indoctrination Association"). Give states rights back to the states and kill the federal organizations that have taken these rights away over the past many decades.
This seems like a tall order, but the anger of the country is only going to grow for the next couple of years. We need to channel that anger and focus it in the proper direction.
And then we can't afford to just vote for someone who's not a Democrat (are you listening, GOP??), because without a plan, they won't do much to restore our country's greatness. They'll just be happy to have power and sit on their asses.
The mandate MUST be clear -- FIX THE MESS! UNDO OBAMA'S DAMGE! UNDO MUCH OF THE LIBERAL PROGRESSION OF THE LAST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY! TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION! If you don't, then we will replace YOU next time with someone who will.
WE are the power in this scenario. WE do the hiring and firing. This is why we MUST coordinate (a lesson we can actually take from the liberals like Obama). We must then act specifically toward the goal, and must never lose our focus or intensity.
WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!! We can do this! Yes, we can!!!!
:)
It seems to me that a Constitutional convention to specifically limit in plain words what the "general welfare" and "interstate commerce" clauses which have been used time and again to circumvent the rest of the document. And that would take a great deal of national coordination to achieve.
Repeal of this bill is like cutting another head from the hydra, we need to tighten up the Constitution and make it as "lawyer proof" as possible.
It seems to me that a Constitutional convention to specifically limit in plain words what the "general welfare" and "interstate commerce" clauses which have been used time and again to circumvent the rest of the document. And that would take a great deal of national coordination to achieve.
Repeal of this bill is like cutting another head from the hydra, we need to tighten up the Constitution and make it as "lawyer proof" as possible.
Good luck. I'll be on the other side, explaining to those same people that you don't know your history, your constitution, and are simply outdated, reactionary, and ill-informed. Let me guess...a spouter of Hayek, who doesn't know who he is, a hater of deficit spending, but without knowing anything about Keynes, and attacking education? Not shocked by that one at all...as we all know, the more informed people become, the more of a joke this tea bagging movement is.
Good luck. I'll be on the other side, explaining to those same people that you don't know your history, your constitution, and are simply outdated, reactionary, and ill-informed. Let me guess...a spouter of Hayek, who doesn't know who he is, a hater of deficit spending, but without knowing anything about Keynes, and attacking education? Not shocked by that one at all...as we all know, the more informed people become, the more of a joke this tea bagging movement is.
Conservatives have a simple message and the tea party will carry that message. The Central Government spends too much money and gets too little benefit from that spending. Public sector unions, the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, Public Broadcasting, countless subsidies and most entitlements have become indefensible.
Conservatives have a simple message and the tea party will carry that message. The Central Government spends too much money and gets too little benefit from that spending. Public sector unions, the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, Public Broadcasting, countless subsidies and most entitlements have become indefensible.
The thing that bothers most, is that you particularly single out elements that are actually beneficial. How anyone can attack public education is beyond me; that is just odd, and extremely alarming actually. The department of energy? Seriously? What about the yearly renewal of tax subsidies we give the richest of our companies every year? Corporate welfare? How about defense spending on weaponry we don't use, keep for 2 years, and then sell to the Chinese or as Reagan did, Iran, right after they kidnapped our citizens? How about Iraq? You want to end public broadcasting, but think Iraq is totally a worthwhile expediture huh? It is beyond me...the issue isn't that you don't want the government to spend as much money, you just don't want them to spend it on things that benefit the country as a whole. Apparently, you like corporate welfare, wars with no purpose or benefit, and what about those tax havens that churches have become, while posting themselves as political vehicles? Typical typical typical
The thing that bothers most, is that you particularly single out elements that are actually beneficial. How anyone can attack public education is beyond me; that is just odd, and extremely alarming actually. The department of energy? Seriously? What about the yearly renewal of tax subsidies we give the richest of our companies every year? Corporate welfare? How about defense spending on weaponry we don't use, keep for 2 years, and then sell to the Chinese or as Reagan did, Iran, right after they kidnapped our citizens? How about Iraq? You want to end public broadcasting, but think Iraq is totally a worthwhile expediture huh? It is beyond me...the issue isn't that you don't want the government to spend as much money, you just don't want them to spend it on things that benefit the country as a whole. Apparently, you like corporate welfare, wars with no purpose or benefit, and what about those tax havens that churches have become, while posting themselves as political vehicles? Typical typical typical
Dose of Reality, The more indefensible the program the more the self congratulatory left loves it. Freed from the burden of logic they can let their emotions and imaginations fly away to subjects not remotely relate to the conversation. The beauty of government "solutions" to imaginary problems is that no one can prove they didn't work. Get the government more involved in education and the quality plummets, get the government more involved in health care and costs skyrocket. But in each case the self congratulatory elites can point to how many dollars they threw down the hole so they can sleep at night knowing they have somehow slaved their self loathing and class guilt.
The left itself, is, by definition, indefensible, and they love it, victims to the end.
Dose of Reality,
The more indefensible the program the more the self congratulatory left loves it. Freed from the burden of logic they can let their emotions and imaginations fly away to subjects not remotely relate to the conversation. The beauty of government "solutions" to imaginary problems is that no one can prove they didn't work. Get the government more involved in education and the quality plummets, get the government more involved in health care and costs skyrocket. But in each case the self congratulatory elites can point to how many dollars they threw down the hole so they can sleep at night knowing they have somehow slaved their self loathing and class guilt.
The left itself, is, by definition, indefensible, and they love it, victims to the end.
How can anyone attack public education? The page isn't long enough. Anecdotal arguments against defense spending? $100 hammers, the military sucks. Corporate Welfare? We have an 80,000 tax code full of corporate favoritism and I'd burn it, now. The Department of Energy, created by Jim Carter in response to the energy crisis, was entrusted the duty of reducing our dependence on foreign oil. That worked out really well. If leftist diatribes, railing against religion, the military and profit, had a logical conclusion, I would listen.
How can anyone attack public education? The page isn't long enough. Anecdotal arguments against defense spending? $100 hammers, the military sucks. Corporate Welfare? We have an 80,000 tax code full of corporate favoritism and I'd burn it, now. The Department of Energy, created by Jim Carter in response to the energy crisis, was entrusted the duty of reducing our dependence on foreign oil. That worked out really well. If leftist diatribes, railing against religion, the military and profit, had a logical conclusion, I would listen.
Just AI - I am a liberal, so I'll address what the left loves and doesn't love. Just ask me, I'll be totally honest, and actually give you the real reason why "we" are into it or not, and if "I" personally am and why. Seriously. There is a divide here with regards to information. Eventually I would think we could actually come up with a dialogue. Dose - I think we would both agree that education is a necessity in this world, correct? Additionally, I would think that we could both agree that the more educated people we have in our country, the better our country is, correct? Some people can't afford private schools. Some people, as well, would rather their children not go to a church for school. That leaves a vast void, correct? How do you educate that void without a public education infrastructure in place? If you think public education teaches kids to be liberal or something, wrong information or what not, I would agree. However, I would guess that we disagree on what specifically, so let's discuss it. What in particular bothers you about public education, and what being taught, is incorrect, if that is indeed what also bothers you. I am interested. -I think it is cool that you don't like corporate welfare. I talk with as many people as I can on both sides, and find that if you talk long enough, you aren't as far apart as you originally thought, and you are both more informed due to the dialogue. -You do realize that it isn't the department of energy that screws the pooch on our energy right? Literally, employees of the oil lobbies, coal reps, etc, write the laws with regards to our energy policies. Our congressmen, left and right, have sold themselves to these people. They won't write laws that don't benefit them. To my knowledge, the DOE deals with the handling of radioactive waste, nuclear plants and the nation's nuclear weapon's program as a whole, energy conservation and research. Now, I will give you that the energy research seems to be squat, as I just saw a guy on a documentary who can run a car with all kinds of stuff, water, trash, a 1972 Bigf Chief loose leaf notebook. The guy was like McGuyver. I know this isn't something that we could probably mass manufacture and make work at a reasonable cost. But have you seen the video games kids are playing these days? I have a blackberry, but I have seen those IPhones and are you telling me that some knucklehead out there who can't tie his shoes, but can recite pi down to 1000 digits hasn't come up with a few ideas that we can use? I wouldn't trust the guy I saw a year ago on local news who could run his car on water to walk my dog, but he also put solar panels on his house, and now the electric company pays him each month. That is a fact. With oil company advisers writing the laws in favor of themselves, and their funds go to send both of our party's congressmen to local s&m bars at 2pm on a Wednesday, then we don't get energy research or funding. We get a system where 13 Merrill Lynch guys can get bored one week at the martini bar, and cook up a plan to use speculators to artificially inflate our country's gas prices 3 bucks a gallon on a whim, and it works, AND they are still at the bar! I love talking religion and why my team doesn't dig it, both extreme views with background and not. I think I am obsessed with politics enough, and read each side's websites daily and catch a show constantly on the radio when I am not. I think I can give you the real responses as to anything you want to know with regards to why lefties are that way, both good and bad, and what their viewpoints are. Seriously, if you want to know the actual answer, and why, then ask. I keep up with you and why/how you think, that is why I am here.
Just AI - I am a liberal, so I'll address what the left loves and doesn't love. Just ask me, I'll be totally honest, and actually give you the real reason why "we" are into it or not, and if "I" personally am and why. Seriously. There is a divide here with regards to information. Eventually I would think we could actually come up with a dialogue.
Dose - I think we would both agree that education is a necessity in this world, correct? Additionally, I would think that we could both agree that the more educated people we have in our country, the better our country is, correct? Some people can't afford private schools. Some people, as well, would rather their children not go to a church for school. That leaves a vast void, correct? How do you educate that void without a public education infrastructure in place? If you think public education teaches kids to be liberal or something, wrong information or what not, I would agree. However, I would guess that we disagree on what specifically, so let's discuss it. What in particular bothers you about public education, and what being taught, is incorrect, if that is indeed what also bothers you. I am interested.
-I think it is cool that you don't like corporate welfare. I talk with as many people as I can on both sides, and find that if you talk long enough, you aren't as far apart as you originally thought, and you are both more informed due to the dialogue.
-You do realize that it isn't the department of energy that screws the pooch on our energy right? Literally, employees of the oil lobbies, coal reps, etc, write the laws with regards to our energy policies. Our congressmen, left and right, have sold themselves to these people. They won't write laws that don't benefit them. To my knowledge, the DOE deals with the handling of radioactive waste, nuclear plants and the nation's nuclear weapon's program as a whole, energy conservation and research. Now, I will give you that the energy research seems to be squat, as I just saw a guy on a documentary who can run a car with all kinds of stuff, water, trash, a 1972 Bigf Chief loose leaf notebook. The guy was like McGuyver. I know this isn't something that we could probably mass manufacture and make work at a reasonable cost. But have you seen the video games kids are playing these days? I have a blackberry, but I have seen those IPhones and are you telling me that some knucklehead out there who can't tie his shoes, but can recite pi down to 1000 digits hasn't come up with a few ideas that we can use? I wouldn't trust the guy I saw a year ago on local news who could run his car on water to walk my dog, but he also put solar panels on his house, and now the electric company pays him each month. That is a fact. With oil company advisers writing the laws in favor of themselves, and their funds go to send both of our party's congressmen to local s&m bars at 2pm on a Wednesday, then we don't get energy research or funding. We get a system where 13 Merrill Lynch guys can get bored one week at the martini bar, and cook up a plan to use speculators to artificially inflate our country's gas prices 3 bucks a gallon on a whim, and it works, AND they are still at the bar!
I love talking religion and why my team doesn't dig it, both extreme views with background and not. I think I am obsessed with politics enough, and read each side's websites daily and catch a show constantly on the radio when I am not. I think I can give you the real responses as to anything you want to know with regards to why lefties are that way, both good and bad, and what their viewpoints are. Seriously, if you want to know the actual answer, and why, then ask. I keep up with you and why/how you think, that is why I am here.
Tex, I will always offend the larger government with oversimplifications but I am a simple person. I will start from the premise that education is a state issue and not a federal one.
The DOE deals with radioactive waste, nuclear plants etc., etc. Why would I want them called to account since it's working out so well?
Obama's deficit reduction panel should address some of the concerns. Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson should be able to fulfill the campaign promise of going through every department with a fine tooth comb, fixing or eliminating the programs that aren't working. They intend putting everything on the table. Spending must be cut and revenue must be enhanced. Fortunately, the 10 dems and 8 republicans on the panel can start with a simple premise, spending is out of control and our tax system is disfunctional.
The Departments of Defense, Education, Energy, HHS and "You name it" need some serious haircuts. I'm a strong defense, fiscal conservative and I'll give the Military the first buzz. Financing world protection has become our personal form of insanity.
Tex, I will always offend the larger government with oversimplifications but I am a simple person. I will start from the premise that education is a state issue and not a federal one.
The DOE deals with radioactive waste, nuclear plants etc., etc. Why would I want them called to account since it's working out so well?
Obama's deficit reduction panel should address some of the concerns. Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson should be able to fulfill the campaign promise of going through every department with a fine tooth comb, fixing or eliminating the programs that aren't working. They intend putting everything on the table. Spending must be cut and revenue must be enhanced. Fortunately, the 10 dems and 8 republicans on the panel can start with a simple premise, spending is out of control and our tax system is disfunctional.
The Departments of Defense, Education, Energy, HHS and "You name it" need some serious haircuts. I'm a strong defense, fiscal conservative and I'll give the Military the first buzz. Financing world protection has become our personal form of insanity.
Education is a state issue? That is ridiculous. Once again, we have people who just don't think. If you care about educating our country, our children, then you have to standardize nationally. You cannot have one state's teaching different things to the children. Right now, it is both...we have national standards, and state standards. If you think each state should run their own education, you are an idiot. That is as plane and simple as I can get. You haven't thought it out or you are simply a raving idiot. Secondly, in response to your DOE question...when was the last time your nuclear missles misfired or you had a meltdown? Have you had problems with radioactive waste backing up in your toilet? No? Then don't be an idiot. Tell me, where were you smartasses when Reagan tripled the debt? No bitching then. Where were you when Bush spent more than Obama has (Obama's is over 10 years per his budget). Where were you bitching at then? Face it. You don't like the black guy with the scary name and don't care what he does. What a joke.
Education is a state issue? That is ridiculous. Once again, we have people who just don't think. If you care about educating our country, our children, then you have to standardize nationally. You cannot have one state's teaching different things to the children. Right now, it is both...we have national standards, and state standards. If you think each state should run their own education, you are an idiot. That is as plane and simple as I can get. You haven't thought it out or you are simply a raving idiot.
Secondly, in response to your DOE question...when was the last time your nuclear missles misfired or you had a meltdown? Have you had problems with radioactive waste backing up in your toilet? No? Then don't be an idiot.
Tell me, where were you smartasses when Reagan tripled the debt? No bitching then. Where were you when Bush spent more than Obama has (Obama's is over 10 years per his budget). Where were you bitching at then? Face it. You don't like the black guy with the scary name and don't care what he does. What a joke.
You want Washington D.C. to educate our children and I'm an idiot. Nuclear waste storage is going really well and I'm an idiot. Bush spent more than Obama and I'm a bitching, bigoted joke.
Looks good to me. I guess Bowles and Simpson can call it a day and forget about that deficit thing.
You want Washington D.C. to educate our children and I'm an idiot.
Nuclear waste storage is going really well and I'm an idiot.
Bush spent more than Obama and I'm a bitching, bigoted joke.
Looks good to me. I guess Bowles and Simpson can call it a day and forget about that deficit thing.
Dose, come on sir! Each state cannot dictate the requirements of education, or we have idiot states and not idiot states. There are basic requirements man. Come on. Do you not care a bit about the future of this country? Nuclear waste storage appears to be going well. I don't know anything about major issues, but you appear to have an issue with it. So...whatcha got? And yes...I can give you links if you want; it isn't a secret. Based upon current spending and not projected, Bush spent dramatically more than Obama has so far. However, Bush didn't have to salvage the largest recession in years either. Bush decided to invade a country that had nothing to do with anything we were involved in...and yes, that costs quite a bit. That tax break for the top 2% costed even more. That prescription drug program was deficit funded as well. Check it out sir...not hard to find. As for Bowles and Simpson, I am not sure what they say about the deficit, but I'll look it up. The deficit is an issue for sure, but you can't get out of a recession without deficit spending, and that is basic hs economics. What did Reagan think about the deficit, as you know he tripled it, just like Bush jr did, and Obama might top that, but still...your anti big government icons did exactly what you despise. I understand you are ticked, and we are spending money like crazy...but also, we hit a really bad spot in our history. We haven't had spending like this in a long long time, and yet, we have a great number of things that need to be fixed. If you tea partiers started bitching about the corporatists AND the government, then you might have an whole new constituency, as if you didn't know...from a big time progressive, WE are PISSED too! You would be surprised, but there are several reasons that we share as well.
Dose, come on sir! Each state cannot dictate the requirements of education, or we have idiot states and not idiot states. There are basic requirements man. Come on. Do you not care a bit about the future of this country?
Nuclear waste storage appears to be going well. I don't know anything about major issues, but you appear to have an issue with it. So...whatcha got?
And yes...I can give you links if you want; it isn't a secret. Based upon current spending and not projected, Bush spent dramatically more than Obama has so far. However, Bush didn't have to salvage the largest recession in years either. Bush decided to invade a country that had nothing to do with anything we were involved in...and yes, that costs quite a bit. That tax break for the top 2% costed even more. That prescription drug program was deficit funded as well. Check it out sir...not hard to find. As for Bowles and Simpson, I am not sure what they say about the deficit, but I'll look it up. The deficit is an issue for sure, but you can't get out of a recession without deficit spending, and that is basic hs economics. What did Reagan think about the deficit, as you know he tripled it, just like Bush jr did, and Obama might top that, but still...your anti big government icons did exactly what you despise. I understand you are ticked, and we are spending money like crazy...but also, we hit a really bad spot in our history. We haven't had spending like this in a long long time, and yet, we have a great number of things that need to be fixed. If you tea partiers started bitching about the corporatists AND the government, then you might have an whole new constituency, as if you didn't know...from a big time progressive, WE are PISSED too! You would be surprised, but there are several reasons that we share as well.
Bush did it and liberal government will fix it. You sounded a bit like my buddy Keith Olbermann, "Sir, you can't let states and private institution run around making our children stupid, Sir".
We have no Nuclear Waste storage plan. Yucca Mountain is shut down, we are paying federal fines to utilities for failing to deliver storage and there is no plan. 30 years and billions invested in Yucca Mountain and it very quietly disappeared.
Bush did it and liberal government will fix it. You sounded a bit like my buddy Keith Olbermann, "Sir, you can't let states and private institution run around making our children stupid, Sir".
We have no Nuclear Waste storage plan. Yucca Mountain is shut down, we are paying federal fines to utilities for failing to deliver storage and there is no plan. 30 years and billions invested in Yucca Mountain and it very quietly disappeared.
Actually Dose, Yucca Mountain deals with the PERMANENT storage of nuclear waste. We haven't had nuclear spills in the storage facilities they currently are in. So, you point is invalid. Secondly, "over the past 20 years there have been more than 600 recorded seismic events that registered over 2.5 on the Richter scale, all of which occurred within a 50-mile radius of the site - the largest being the 1992 Little Skull Mountain earthquake which registered 5.6 and caused damage to the DOE's Yucca Mountain project office. Another nearby earthquake occurred 10 years later, measuring 4.2. The DOE originally claimed the area would only see one earthquake about "every 10,000 years.'" One earthquake...light/middle in scope, and another 3 mile island, except this is with the waste, and MUCH MUCH more radiation. Great idea. Why do you people always support the very things that hurt people, like you, like me? You want less regulation on business, so they can cause another crash or artificially jack up the gas prices for a year to make some fast cash. you want to lessen regulation on business with regard to the environment...so the coal and chemical companies can dump their waste in the rivers and have another 50,000 of new cancer patients in a month. You want to allow unregulated and unmeasured defense spending, when they make weapons we don't need, sell to the government overpriced, who puts them in a warehouse, until they can sell them to China or outsource to a dealer who disperses them into Africa for a personal profit with a chip to the Pentagon. The conservatives were the ones fighting against women's rights, desegregation, etc etc....how in the world can you sleep at night? Don't you care about anyone at all other than your immediate family and neighbors? Do you like your neighbors even?
Actually Dose, Yucca Mountain deals with the PERMANENT storage of nuclear waste. We haven't had nuclear spills in the storage facilities they currently are in. So, you point is invalid. Secondly, "over the past 20 years there have been more than 600 recorded seismic events that registered over 2.5 on the Richter scale, all of which occurred within a 50-mile radius of the site - the largest being the 1992 Little Skull Mountain earthquake which registered 5.6 and caused damage to the DOE's Yucca Mountain project office. Another nearby earthquake occurred 10 years later, measuring 4.2.
The DOE originally claimed the area would only see one earthquake about "every 10,000 years.'"
One earthquake...light/middle in scope, and another 3 mile island, except this is with the waste, and MUCH MUCH more radiation. Great idea. Why do you people always support the very things that hurt people, like you, like me? You want less regulation on business, so they can cause another crash or artificially jack up the gas prices for a year to make some fast cash. you want to lessen regulation on business with regard to the environment...so the coal and chemical companies can dump their waste in the rivers and have another 50,000 of new cancer patients in a month. You want to allow unregulated and unmeasured defense spending, when they make weapons we don't need, sell to the government overpriced, who puts them in a warehouse, until they can sell them to China or outsource to a dealer who disperses them into Africa for a personal profit with a chip to the Pentagon. The conservatives were the ones fighting against women's rights, desegregation, etc etc....how in the world can you sleep at night? Don't you care about anyone at all other than your immediate family and neighbors? Do you like your neighbors even?
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People think that the dems won't be able to pass anything else once the backlash of healthcare is felt, not true. The reality of their doom will embolden them to pass everything on Obama's agenda while they still can.
There is a way, however, to win the war. We must coordinate with other like-minded groups (national coordination) to then communicate and coordinate with conservative candidates. It is OUR job (at the grassroots level) to communicate our mandate to candidates -- the Republicans party players cannot be trusted to spearhead this effort... they'll fold, because they aren't truly connected to the heartbeat of America. But we MUST support and direct the Republicans... a third party will not get us anywhere other than on the losing end of history.
So we take back the House, and perhaps even the Senate with candidates committed to passing strong, conservative legislation -- which Obama will veto or just ignore and let die (though he'll probably veto it, because of his ego). Our guys then pass similar legislation again, and again, and again. We force Obama's hand.
Here's the deal: there are still a lot of folks who just can't get their mind around the fact that we have elected a President who fundamentally despises the founding principles of our country. He is a far-left ideologue, and we have to take back Congress and pass bill after bill that does what people in the country want, and here's the kicker -- we have to COMMUNICATE this to the people, so they can see that Obama will not lift a finger to help the private sector of our country. He will only move when it means giving the government more control over our lives.
While we do this (and public anger continues to grow -- Lord knows our economy won't) we must also coordinate with those who will become presidential candidates for 2012. They must run on a platform that they'll sign the bills Obama is ignoring. The people need to know that with the new president all of these great bills will be signed into law, restoring our personal liberties, shrinking government, privatizing GM and Chrysler, disbanding the National Education Association (or should I say "National Indoctrination Association"). Give states rights back to the states and kill the federal organizations that have taken these rights away over the past many decades.
This seems like a tall order, but the anger of the country is only going to grow for the next couple of years. We need to channel that anger and focus it in the proper direction.
And then we can't afford to just vote for someone who's not a Democrat (are you listening, GOP??), because without a plan, they won't do much to restore our country's greatness. They'll just be happy to have power and sit on their asses.
The mandate MUST be clear -- FIX THE MESS! UNDO OBAMA'S DAMGE! UNDO MUCH OF THE LIBERAL PROGRESSION OF THE LAST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY! TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION! If you don't, then we will replace YOU next time with someone who will.
WE are the power in this scenario. WE do the hiring and firing. This is why we MUST coordinate (a lesson we can actually take from the liberals like Obama). We must then act specifically toward the goal, and must never lose our focus or intensity.
WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!! We can do this! Yes, we can!!!!
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Repeal of this bill is like cutting another head from the hydra, we need to tighten up the Constitution and make it as "lawyer proof" as possible.
The more indefensible the program the more the self congratulatory left loves it. Freed from the burden of logic they can let their emotions and imaginations fly away to subjects not remotely relate to the conversation. The beauty of government "solutions" to imaginary problems is that no one can prove they didn't work. Get the government more involved in education and the quality plummets, get the government more involved in health care and costs skyrocket. But in each case the self congratulatory elites can point to how many dollars they threw down the hole so they can sleep at night knowing they have somehow slaved their self loathing and class guilt.
The left itself, is, by definition, indefensible, and they love it, victims to the end.
Dose - I think we would both agree that education is a necessity in this world, correct? Additionally, I would think that we could both agree that the more educated people we have in our country, the better our country is, correct? Some people can't afford private schools. Some people, as well, would rather their children not go to a church for school. That leaves a vast void, correct? How do you educate that void without a public education infrastructure in place? If you think public education teaches kids to be liberal or something, wrong information or what not, I would agree. However, I would guess that we disagree on what specifically, so let's discuss it. What in particular bothers you about public education, and what being taught, is incorrect, if that is indeed what also bothers you. I am interested.
-I think it is cool that you don't like corporate welfare. I talk with as many people as I can on both sides, and find that if you talk long enough, you aren't as far apart as you originally thought, and you are both more informed due to the dialogue.
-You do realize that it isn't the department of energy that screws the pooch on our energy right? Literally, employees of the oil lobbies, coal reps, etc, write the laws with regards to our energy policies. Our congressmen, left and right, have sold themselves to these people. They won't write laws that don't benefit them. To my knowledge, the DOE deals with the handling of radioactive waste, nuclear plants and the nation's nuclear weapon's program as a whole, energy conservation and research. Now, I will give you that the energy research seems to be squat, as I just saw a guy on a documentary who can run a car with all kinds of stuff, water, trash, a 1972 Bigf Chief loose leaf notebook. The guy was like McGuyver. I know this isn't something that we could probably mass manufacture and make work at a reasonable cost. But have you seen the video games kids are playing these days? I have a blackberry, but I have seen those IPhones and are you telling me that some knucklehead out there who can't tie his shoes, but can recite pi down to 1000 digits hasn't come up with a few ideas that we can use? I wouldn't trust the guy I saw a year ago on local news who could run his car on water to walk my dog, but he also put solar panels on his house, and now the electric company pays him each month. That is a fact. With oil company advisers writing the laws in favor of themselves, and their funds go to send both of our party's congressmen to local s&m bars at 2pm on a Wednesday, then we don't get energy research or funding. We get a system where 13 Merrill Lynch guys can get bored one week at the martini bar, and cook up a plan to use speculators to artificially inflate our country's gas prices 3 bucks a gallon on a whim, and it works, AND they are still at the bar!
I love talking religion and why my team doesn't dig it, both extreme views with background and not. I think I am obsessed with politics enough, and read each side's websites daily and catch a show constantly on the radio when I am not. I think I can give you the real responses as to anything you want to know with regards to why lefties are that way, both good and bad, and what their viewpoints are. Seriously, if you want to know the actual answer, and why, then ask. I keep up with you and why/how you think, that is why I am here.
The DOE deals with radioactive waste, nuclear plants etc., etc. Why would I want them called to account since it's working out so well?
Obama's deficit reduction panel should address some of the concerns. Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson should be able to fulfill the campaign promise of going through every department with a fine tooth comb, fixing or eliminating the programs that aren't working. They intend putting everything on the table. Spending must be cut and revenue must be enhanced. Fortunately, the 10 dems and 8 republicans on the panel can start with a simple premise, spending is out of control and our tax system is disfunctional.
The Departments of Defense, Education, Energy, HHS and "You name it" need some serious haircuts. I'm a strong defense, fiscal conservative and I'll give the Military the first buzz. Financing world protection has become our personal form of insanity.
Secondly, in response to your DOE question...when was the last time your nuclear missles misfired or you had a meltdown? Have you had problems with radioactive waste backing up in your toilet? No? Then don't be an idiot.
Tell me, where were you smartasses when Reagan tripled the debt? No bitching then. Where were you when Bush spent more than Obama has (Obama's is over 10 years per his budget). Where were you bitching at then? Face it. You don't like the black guy with the scary name and don't care what he does. What a joke.
Nuclear waste storage is going really well and I'm an idiot.
Bush spent more than Obama and I'm a bitching, bigoted joke.
Looks good to me. I guess Bowles and Simpson can call it a day and forget about that deficit thing.
Nuclear waste storage appears to be going well. I don't know anything about major issues, but you appear to have an issue with it. So...whatcha got?
And yes...I can give you links if you want; it isn't a secret. Based upon current spending and not projected, Bush spent dramatically more than Obama has so far. However, Bush didn't have to salvage the largest recession in years either. Bush decided to invade a country that had nothing to do with anything we were involved in...and yes, that costs quite a bit. That tax break for the top 2% costed even more. That prescription drug program was deficit funded as well. Check it out sir...not hard to find. As for Bowles and Simpson, I am not sure what they say about the deficit, but I'll look it up. The deficit is an issue for sure, but you can't get out of a recession without deficit spending, and that is basic hs economics. What did Reagan think about the deficit, as you know he tripled it, just like Bush jr did, and Obama might top that, but still...your anti big government icons did exactly what you despise. I understand you are ticked, and we are spending money like crazy...but also, we hit a really bad spot in our history. We haven't had spending like this in a long long time, and yet, we have a great number of things that need to be fixed. If you tea partiers started bitching about the corporatists AND the government, then you might have an whole new constituency, as if you didn't know...from a big time progressive, WE are PISSED too! You would be surprised, but there are several reasons that we share as well.
We have no Nuclear Waste storage plan. Yucca Mountain is shut down, we are paying federal fines to utilities for failing to deliver storage and there is no plan. 30 years and billions invested in Yucca Mountain and it very quietly disappeared.
The DOE originally claimed the area would only see one earthquake about "every 10,000 years.'"
One earthquake...light/middle in scope, and another 3 mile island, except this is with the waste, and MUCH MUCH more radiation. Great idea. Why do you people always support the very things that hurt people, like you, like me? You want less regulation on business, so they can cause another crash or artificially jack up the gas prices for a year to make some fast cash. you want to lessen regulation on business with regard to the environment...so the coal and chemical companies can dump their waste in the rivers and have another 50,000 of new cancer patients in a month. You want to allow unregulated and unmeasured defense spending, when they make weapons we don't need, sell to the government overpriced, who puts them in a warehouse, until they can sell them to China or outsource to a dealer who disperses them into Africa for a personal profit with a chip to the Pentagon. The conservatives were the ones fighting against women's rights, desegregation, etc etc....how in the world can you sleep at night? Don't you care about anyone at all other than your immediate family and neighbors? Do you like your neighbors even?